I would like everyone to evaluate this site http://www.logoworks.com
A fast solution company for designing logos.

Tell me what you think.

Paulo Granato/Brazil

This is bad and wrong on many many levels.

Successful branding takes time, lots of research, understanding and talented
people. You know this yourself!

Whilst the 'one stop logo shop' create a niche for itself in 'now now
market', I am of the opinion that these logos and sadly the businesses they
represent will disappear as quickly as they were created.

cheers
--
M O T U S

Celia Dymond
Design Director
telephone (office) +61 3 9868 7509
telephone (mobile) +61 438 377 922

11th floor, 505 St Kilda Road
Melbourne VIC 3004
telephone +61 3 9868 7500
facsimile +61 3 9868 7511

> I would like everyone to evaluate this site http://www.logoworks.com
> A fast solution company for designing logos.
>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Paulo Granato/Brazil
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I'd like to take up logoworks' offer of 'unlimited revisions'.

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I would like everyone to evaluate this site http://www.logoworks.com
A fast solution company for designing logos.

Tell me what you think.

Paulo Granato/Brazil

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Paulo,

I do not support logo mills because they lead businesses to a false
understanding of strategic branding and design. Furthermore, it
trivializes a designer's formal training and experience and makes it
seem as though what we do is nothing more than making pretty images.

That being said, it's a shame that LogoWorks couldn't put more thought
into their own logo. I suppose it's a testament to their work...

--

I'm impressed, frankly, Paulo. The work is decent and the business model is
impressive. Site and process well thought through.

Tony

----- Original Message -----
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Cc: <email protected>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: [WIREALITY] evaluation

I would like everyone to evaluate this site http://www.logoworks.com
A fast solution company for designing logos.

Tell me what you think.

Paulo Granato/Brazil

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This is interesting!

I am of the humble opinion that branding and identity work should be firmly
based on a company´s business and somewhere express the differentiating
factors of the same. It is a long process involving hard work ( I know
having done it for the last 13 years) and in the end the client should have
something that can live and prosper together with the company over a period
of time; sometimes for a very long time.

I am not very keen on these on-stop-shops at all...but somwhere I can't help
thinking that we might over-intellectualize our profession. I know that I am
swearing in church right now but it is an intriguing thought. Maybe we put
the label "strategic" on our proffession just to improve value on our work
when it is all about creative interpretations! We're artists and what we do
is taking in our client's wishes and then deliver upon them...like a good
brand-fairy...

Once again I am sorry if I upset anyone...all I want to do is play with the
thought of it.

Magnus Dahlhjelm

SILENT SPRING
Kungsgatan 42, 111 35 Stockholm
Tel +46-8-406 09 40 | Mobil +46-733-113 160

www.silentspring.se

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> Reply-To: "List: Wireality" <email protected>
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:13:17 -0400
> To: "List: Wireality" <email protected>
> Subject: Re: [WIREALITY] evaluation
>
> I'm impressed, frankly, Paulo. The work is decent and the business model is
> impressive. Site and process well thought through.
>
> Tony
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paulo Granato" <email protected>
> To: <email protected>
> Cc: <email protected>
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:28 PM
> Subject: [WIREALITY] evaluation
>
>
> I would like everyone to evaluate this site http://www.logoworks.com
> A fast solution company for designing logos.
>
> Tell me what you think.
>
> Paulo Granato/Brazil
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:54:18 +1000, Celia Dymond
<email protected> wrote:
> This is bad and wrong on many many levels.
> Successful branding takes time, lots of research, understanding and
> talented people. You know this yourself!
> Whilst the 'one stop logo shop' create a niche for itself in 'now now
> market', I am of the opinion that these logos and sadly the businesses
> they represent will disappear as quickly as they were created.

I used to think the same way too until I started to do corporate identity
stuff for small companies. I realized there are lots of small businesses
who could never afford to pay for extended branding and corporate identity
services. Sometimes all they really need is a decent logo and a stationery
package and that's all. I think a site like www.logoworks.com is exactly
what a small company may look for. Not everyone can afford a $10,000
identity package.

Tudor M. Vedeanu